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How to properly mix vocals into music?
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KitC
243 posts | 11 Posted on 09/25/2005 at 06:42 agaudio wrote : Axeman, Unfortunately, they do make USB mics...not good for the serious wannabe audiophiles! Read it and weep: http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1810&brandID=2 agaudio, I know about Samson's attempt. But what do you think about Blue's usb mic, the Snowball? Best, | ||
agaudio
15 posts | 12 Posted on 09/25/2005 at 08:54 KitC wrote : [quote=agaudio]Axeman, Unfortunately, they do make USB mics...not good for the serious wannabe audiophiles! Read it and weep: http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1810&brandID=2 agaudio, I know about Samson's attempt. But what do you think about Blue's usb mic, the Snowball? Best,[/quote] I'm not sure about the Blue Snowballs, KitC. I haven't personally used them myself. I would just be concerned with how good their A/D converters are or if your computer processor is going to have to do the converting (The more RAM used for A/D processing, the slower your system for other applications). Personally I'd rather go through an A/D mic pre with a typical XLR connector for good grounding...the PC line feed from the mic may have noise inherent circuitry, although I admit that is speculation on my part and I haven't actually used one. My main concern, however, would be, again, the processor use of the CPU verses an outboard A/D mic-pre. After having read their specs in the manual, I'd also be a little concerned with it's slightly off center-axis polar frequency response, probably having to do with the fact that the Snowball has two capsules in it to make polar pattern changes possible. Blue's website also states that "it’s ideal for podcasting," so I wouldn't be expecting hi-end from a "16-bit word" mic (in the following rep's for Blue response). I would be curioius just how well it would do in a listening test against another condensor in its price range and I have to admit, it looks tempting for its price and features...but as the old adage goes when it comes to anything, "You get what you pay for." I'd rather use a condensor with its own power supply and pre-amp, or a condensor through an A/D converter mic-pre. Anytime a mic manufacturer fails to comment about a mic's signal-to-noise ratio, it's cause for a little uncertainty when it comes to quality. Here's what someone over at Blue had to say about them in response to a potential buyer: http://www.bluemic.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=156 | ||
KitC
243 posts | 13 Posted on 09/25/2005 at 09:42 Thanks, ag! Yeah, I've been to the site myself. Was just curious if this particular mic passed thru your hands. Well, I guess since it's a Blue product, it shouldn't be bad at all given BLue's reputation for boutique mics. I'm seriously considering either the Blue Ball or 8 Ball myself so having another candidate for the mic cabinet would be a nice option. I've a friend who's using a Blueberry in his PT HD studio and he's quite satisfied with it. Cheers! | ||
agaudio
15 posts | 14 Posted on 09/25/2005 at 09:54 KitC wrote : Thanks, ag! Yeah, I've been to the site myself. Was just curious if this particular mic passed thru your hands. Well, I guess since it's a Blue product, it shouldn't be bad at all given BLue's reputation for boutique mics. I'm seriously considering either the Blue Ball or 8 Ball myself so having another candidate for the mic cabinet would be a nice option. I've a friend who's using a Blueberry in his PT HD studio and he's quite satisfied with it. Cheers! My pleasure, Kit! I saw a soprano singer use one in a recent PBS special with singers performing what sounded to me like Riverdance meets Yanni...a performance of Celtic music. I have to admit her sound was quite phenomenal with the Blueberry. Although I admit, you have to take into consideration all of the other processing the sound engineer is using on that mic. Have you considered any of the Groove Tubes mics? I have a GT57 and it has three polar patterns to select from. Sounds great on acoustic instruments and vocals! | ||
KitC
243 posts | 15 Posted on 09/25/2005 at 11:48 Yeah, heard a lot of good things about the GT's though I'm leaning more towards their Brick at the moment. I was originally planning on a Rode NT but the Studio Electronics C1 is beginning to look like a better choice. Might even try my hand on an Oktava (the russian made ones, not the chinese rip-offs) or an AT 3035 or 4033; the AT 2020 seems interesting, as well. So many mic choices, so little budget. Also trying to save some dinero for either a Fireface or Creamware Scope system as well as upgrading my Sonar to V5. The Emu has been behaving extremely well in my system but I'm in the process of building the Neo2 for a dual-pc setup next year so a new soundcard will be necessary. Ahhh, the pitfalls of having caught the GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) bug! Best, | ||
KitC
243 posts | 16 Posted on 09/25/2005 at 11:54 Hehe, will do, ag! :D | ||
agaudio
15 posts | 17 Posted on 09/25/2005 at 11:56 KitC wrote : Yeah, heard a lot of good things about the GT's though I'm leaning more towards their Brick at the moment. I was originally planning on a Rode NT but the Studio Electronics C1 is beginning to look like a better choice. Might even try my hand on an Oktava (the russian made ones, not the chinese rip-offs) or an AT 3035 or 4033; the AT 2020 seems interesting, as well. So many mic choices, so little budget. Also trying to save some dinero for either a Fireface or Creamware Scope system as well as upgrading my Sonar to V5. The Emu has been behaving extremely well in my system but I'm in the process of building the Neo2 for a dual-pc setup next year so a new soundcard will be necessary. Ahhh, the pitfalls of having caught the GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) bug! Best, I know what you mean, Kit! If only we had the budget for our mic cabinets that the people who are making not-so-good music have, but who also have Neumanns, AKG C414s, Blue's tops of the line, and Telefunkens... to dream a dream of a mic cabinet filled with tubes and all the best condensors....ahhhhhh, now there's the rub!!!! I'm fully "GAS"ed too, but if my wife had anything to say about it, it'd be the end of my GAS!  Actually, she's pretty good about it, so long as I keep it within reason. She says I can buy a whole cabinet of the world's best mics when I engineer a platinum record. If only she understood what it takes!:rolleyes: If you find there are any U47 out there at a good price, let me know, please!!! lol
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brandondrury
24 posts | 18 Posted on 10/02/2005 at 20:25 I couldn't imagine giving up the control that mixing offers. I can't think of a time when I haven't recorded a single mic to it's own single track. It's mono because there is only one mic. How are you going to make that stereo? If you are mixing in Sound Forge, you have the wrong tools. You need multitrack software, not a wave editor. The difference will become quite clear when you are able to actually mix. Brandon | ||
VGAES
6 posts | 19 Posted on 03/03/2006 at 00:00 First off mixing is not something you can just pick up .. in order to do it properlly and professionally you need to be tought by someone like an audio engineer (myself) along with hands on practice.. but really quick .. your vocals are always recorded in mono , get a decent A/D, D/A convertor such as a mbox, digi , etc etc and use a multi tracking program such as pro tools, logic, etc etc ... nuendo is decent as well... don't worry about effects and plug-ins until you can properlly record, cause if you input shit it doesn't matter how much you eq or compress the wave it's still gonna sound like shit. Mixing your entire mix together can't be explained you have to have hands on experience.. the same goes your setting up an EQ (knowing your freq's and which ones to notch or which ones to raise) then leaving yourself the proper headroom b4 u raise freq level in the eq, then there's compression, knowing what ratio and threshold to use and it goes on from there.. if you want some help email me @ blazeinc@gmail.com |
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